Showing posts with label Debate. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Debate. Show all posts

Saturday, September 5, 2009

Response to Joel

In his first comment Joel wrote (see comments of this post):
You need help. I bet you didn't say this when Reagan addressed us after the shuttle went down or when 41 did it.

Fa[s]cist
I responded to his comment with a rather long comment of my own, that I will not repost in its entirety, but invite you to read it. (it can be found by following the link above)
Mostly I say why I do not believe I am a fascist, and why, specifically, I object to The Chosen One's designs on our children. I also defended Joel's typo. There but or the grace of spell checker go I. Joel then responded:
Oh, yes, 'The Black Guy wants to brainwash our white children.

Let me add to Fascist the word racist

Oh, and I am subscribing to this post.

And please, call me Joel.
Joel, I ask again, on what grounds am I a fascist? I am unable to refute or confirm this without knowing the basis of your argument. You may have decided to simply throw out a label so you could enjoy me attempting to defend my views, but I chose to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just have not gotten around to explaining the foundation of this assertion. I know who and what I am, and feel I see myself clearly. I feel no need to defend myself or my views from a so far groundless accusation. If you can justify the accusation, then I will defend my positions, views and opinions, else I suggest you let it drop.

As for a racist, well the only one who has brought up race or skin color, is you. I will offer evidence later, but for now let me say, I do not care if it is a black man corrupting our children. I do not want anyone, male, female, black, white or otherwise influencing our children. I feel it is a parents job to raise their children and instill moral sense into them. When those children are older, it is up to them to discern the moral and political compass for themselves, but until then a parent must stand guardian over their lives. I honestly take it to heart that a person should be judged by the content of their characters and not the color of their skin. I also posit that when I see The Chosen One, I do not see black, all I see is Commie Red. I am not a racist, at worst, I am a politicist in that I dislike some people based on their politics. I really dislike liberals, and loath socialists and communists. That is not to say that I dislike or hate the person. I have a few liberal friends, but find most socialists and communists to be distasteful as people, and as such, choose to associate with them as little as possible.

As no man can prove a negative, I offer the following evidence that I am not a racist. I have never in all of my writings asserted that minorities were less than equal to white people. I also have no problems with homosexuals, as long as they keep their hands off of me, nor the religion of any other. I find some religions weird, and a few even disturbing, but that does not, by and large, effect how I interact with them. I have said before, that I come from a very diverse family. My oldest sister married two different black guys and has two mulatto sons. I have not associated with this sister in nine years, not because she married black men, but because of some inter-family strife she caused that has little to nothing to do with her husbands, and none to do with their color. I have not been able to talk with her youngest due to her call blocking my family because of that inter-family strife. My middle sister married and honest-to-god hillbilly, coal miner's son from Buckhannon, West Virginia. The youngest sister married an Arab Muslim from the Kingdom of Morocco. They also have two kids who are awesome. My brother married an Okkie, I have since found out that she is from Massachusetts, and has two beautiful daughters (but not as cute as mine j/k). I married a damned yippie from the great Northwest who is slowly being deprogrammed from the brain-washing she received at WWU in Bellingham, WA (a sanctuary city for both illegal aliens and AWOL soldiers). I am Scots/Irish, English with a little German and Cherokee and (unfortunately) maybe some French (damn surrender monkeys). I was raised Catholic, but have Mormon family on my mom's side. I was born and raised in Dallas, Texas, can speak Spanish and some French and Japanese. I can also curse a bit in German (a great language to swear in). One of my family's friends, for many years, is a flaming homosexual, and I was good friends with a lesbian couple before their break up destroyed all of our friendships.

Granted my eldest child does not play with many black children, but being that their are all of around forty in the town I live in, that is not to surprising. She does however play with many kids of native descent, and a mixed bag of other minorities. She is sensitive to racial injustice, but does not worry or fret about the mere possibility of it, only when it really happens.

So I ask again, how do you justify your comments Joel? Attacking me does not change the fundamental wrongs that The Chosen One is perpetrating against our nation as a whole, and now our children. I understand that I am strident, but that is because I will not let anyone, not even the president, interfere with my children. I fail to understand how this makes me racist, fascist or even a bad person. I am hoping that you can enlighten me. I look forward to hearing from you.

Debate Right Wing Extreme 2.0

I recently invited J.L. Watts, who has asked me to call him Joel, to enter discussions here at RWE. He has said that he will follow this blog and posted another comment, so I am taking this as tacit agreement. Welcome Joel, please call me John. I have a few rules for all who choose to enter this debate.
1. No Insults. If you want to attack anyone, please have evidence to back it up. i.e. Due to his desire to stifle debate and force his view to be the only one heard, I think JohnQBlogger is a fascist.
2. I believe in The Constitution, all of it, and as such abhor censorship. Having said that, I do not like to delete comments, but I will if I find it to be offensive. Being that I have a high tolerance for such, it will have to be pretty rude, immoral or way beyond the bounds of good taste.
3. Be respectful. See rule 1 and 2.
I guess that is it for now, and hopefully more rules will not be necessary, as I believe in freedom with all my heart, and do not want to be forced into stifling it here. The last time I responded to a readers comments, a wise blogger, Euripides over at Self Evident Truths said, "Set your own agenda and say what you want to say. This is your blog, not Anon's." What he, and others, did not realize is, I want dissent on RWE. Most of the comments I get are in agreement with what I have to say, or G-Man at The Pickle messing with me. Not that I do not appreciate the fact that I have an audience that thinks like I do, but it is good to have your views and opinions challenged. It is also better to interact with your readers than to pontificate at them. Having said that, Joel is here at my invitation. That is why I have posted rules of respect and courtesy. I would no more let a guest on my site be insulted, than I would in my home. I hope everyone enjoys the debate and gets an education.

Debate on Right Wing Extreme?

I recently received a comment on this post that I wish to address. Mr. J.L. Watts of The Church of Jesus Christ fides quaerens intellectum wrote:

You need help. I bet you didn't say this when Reagan addressed us after the shuttle went down or when 41 did it.

Fa[s]cist

I responded to his comment with a rather long comment of my own, that I will not repost, but invite you to read it. I attempted, and feel I succeed, in a respectful and intelligent retort. I have also invited Mr. Watts to return to explain his comments and join me in debate. Here is the e-mail I sent to Mr. Watts:

J.L. Watts,

Sir you recently posted a comment on my blog. I received your email address from your blog, which I found to be educational. I thank you for reading, if not the rather rude insult. I have chosen to attempt to engage you in discourse at my blog, and as such have written this e-mail to invite you to return and post a response of your own. I feel I was respectful and have no intention of attacking you to boost readership or other insidious motives. I wish merely to address your views and engage in honest debate. I ask that if you choose to not return that you do me the courtesy of emailing back to let me know. I hope this missive finds you in good health, and look forward to hearing from you, and possibly debating.

Cordially Yours,
Right Wing Extreme
http://peoplesrepublicofamerica.blogspot.com/


Here is a link to the post you commented on: http://peoplesrepublicofamerica.blogspot.com/2009/09/indoctrinating-our-children.html

I hope to hear from Mr. Watts soon and will update if he chooses to do so.